Well Meg its a long used tactic to discuss doctrinal issues that don't necessarily pertain to the individual being spoken to, but rather in hopes that the person or people who may be in the room might be listening in on the topic that is being discussed and apply it towards their own life thereby lifting them closer to Celestial Glory... But since you didn't hear me Meg, apparently our efforts were futile... we were discussing Utah Football, and I was skipping out of Church :)
You don't know me, but I've been following Charlie's story and praying for him from the begining, and I just want to say how much I admire you, Rob and Angel, for handling these difficult times with such determination and grace. It seems, that your extended family is very close and supportive. However, looking at your pictures, I can't help but wonder, why are you allowing so many people near your very very ill baby?? People in outdoor clothes sitting in his room? leaning close to him? Touching him?! The flu season is in full swing, not to mention other viruses, bacteria and such, that we all carry around. And Charlie's body should not be made to fight off extra bugs. He has more than enough on his plate as it is. I don't want to offend anyone, but hospital's policies are sometimes too loose, and then we wonder why are so many infections spread there. You, as parents, should know better. Wishing little Charlie all the best, Mom-from-CT
Actually these parents are pretty well versed in dealing with infectious disease. Realize that many of the people involved with this family are fully aware of the implications of sickness as they have regular contact with my daughter who is immune compromised. So innately most of those who come through this door already are following a stiffer protocol for health standards than the average person. Also try and keep in mind that as one walks down the hallway of this hospital they are walking past many many many people/kids who are hospitalized for RSV related illnesses. They aren't bringing anything (unknowingly) into this hospital that isn't already there. Hospitals aren't where we need to focus on the prevention of spreading of diseases its the day cares, the nursery's where people knowingly allow their bugs to be spread.
Feel free to delete comments like the one above. Nobody should have to listen to such crap. We who know you, know you are doing everything in your power to help your son get better, not expose him to various types of bacteria.
Take care, and wishing little Charlie all the best....
Please watch you language, the anonymous above. There is nothing remotely disrespectful in my post. Just to reiterate... The baby of this age does not need anybody around but his Mom and Dad. All others are there to support the parents, not the baby. So they can do it perfectly well in the waiting room, not hovering over the sick child. That would be the prudent way for them to show that they are taking an extra step to make Charlie feel better sooner. Respectfully, Mom-from-CT.
I am sure the nurses and doctors have the knowledge necessary to ensure Charlie is kept as safe as possible. Furthermore, I am sure the parents would not put their sweet baby in harm's way. It would be nice to see compassion, not passive-agressive behavior during this difficult time.
PS I didn't see MD or RN after your signing of "Mom from CT"
When my little girl Jada Rose was in the hospital we were updating her web site all the time. I wished I had at that time what Rob and Angel have here which is a place for people to leave messages of love and encouragement. It would be such a shame if they had to moderate these wonderful messages. Beleive me when I say if Rob felt like this was worth his time he would have tongue lashed anyone who questioned the manner in which his wife and him have handled this situation to this point. And uhhh he would have used more descriptive words than "Crap". BUT He is busy right now celebrating a victorious day in which the Hospital he is entrusting the life of his child has initiated what appears to be yet another Miracle of many countless other Miracles. Angel has lived up to the meaning of her name in every sense of the word with the way in which she has handled this. My wife and I pray that if we ever need to make life saving decisions regarding our own girl again that God will grant us a portion of the wisdom, strength, and knowledge that we have seen from these two parents. I would place the health and well being of my own child in their hands. That is how confident I am in them. In fact I would LOVE to go give them a High Five and a hug right now but I have what may be a sore throat and dont believe it is smart to go up there. The real issue we should be discussing is what shirt Char was wearing on the day that he decided to enchant us with his KI YI!!! ;)
Thanks Troy for your words of support for all right now. It's easy for people to "armchair quarterback" photos and circumstances with which they aren't familiar. We have to watch that in the Fire and Emergency Services all the time. Remember, if you are only seeing a picture you have no idea what the details are that pertain to the events. You're all awesome and Rob & Ang, I'm endlessly amazed by your strength and proud to be your sis! Love you!
Hey everyone, lets stop this thread. Rob and Angel and the Medical staff are the only ones that get to make the decision about who and when people get to see little Charlie. We know that they've been prayerfull throughout this process. Not only asking for inspiration on their own behalf, but also on the behalf of all the Dr.s and Nurses who are taking care of Charlie. I really don't think any of us will do anybody any good second guessing Rob and Angel or the medical staff. This is not really the place to discuss such things. Further, there is no reason to use this site as anything other than a chance to offer positive thoughts and messages of hope. Let's all bite our tongues and as gammy always said "let us oft speak kind words to each other". We can do our best by being positive in our thoughts and words. We love you guys very much. P.S. Sarah, Christian and Nicole were very touched watching the video of Charlie crying. They and Angie and I are continually thinking of you and the kids pray every night that Charlie will get better.
As a nurse that works in an ICU, let me just say that there can NEVER be enough support. Whether it's the patient that is in a coma, brain dead, intubated, or just too sick to realize who is there; the support from people other than those with medical credentials behind their name tag is incredibly necessary. In fact, the hospital arranges for support for people other than doctors and nurse who don't have family or freinds there to support them. Don't judge a book by its cover...that includes ripping 'mom from CT'. Everyone who KNOWS Rob and Ang, know that if they felt either of their children were in danger, they would have no qualms with letting everyone know. Hang in there Charlie, Rob, Ang and Britty.....Love you guys.....WUGGS
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i love love love the bent legs! and troy, were you giving them a gospel doctrine lecture?
Well Meg its a long used tactic to discuss doctrinal issues that don't necessarily pertain to the individual being spoken to, but rather in hopes that the person or people who may be in the room might be listening in on the topic that is being discussed and apply it towards their own life thereby lifting them closer to Celestial Glory... But since you didn't hear me Meg, apparently our efforts were futile... we were discussing Utah Football, and I was skipping out of Church :)
You don't know me, but I've been following Charlie's story and praying for him from the begining, and I just want to say how much I admire you, Rob and Angel, for handling these difficult times with such determination and grace.
It seems, that your extended family is very close and supportive.
However, looking at your pictures, I can't help but wonder, why are you allowing so many people near your very very ill baby?? People in outdoor clothes sitting in his room? leaning close to him? Touching him?! The flu season is in full swing, not to mention other viruses, bacteria and such, that we all carry around. And Charlie's body should not be made to fight off extra bugs. He has more than enough on his plate as it is.
I don't want to offend anyone, but hospital's policies are sometimes too loose, and then we wonder why are so many infections spread there. You, as parents, should know better.
Wishing little Charlie all the best,
Mom-from-CT
Actually these parents are pretty well versed in dealing with infectious disease. Realize that many of the people involved with this family are fully aware of the implications of sickness as they have regular contact with my daughter who is immune compromised. So innately most of those who come through this door already are following a stiffer protocol for health standards than the average person. Also try and keep in mind that as one walks down the hallway of this hospital they are walking past many many many people/kids who are hospitalized for RSV related illnesses. They aren't bringing anything (unknowingly) into this hospital that isn't already there. Hospitals aren't where we need to focus on the prevention of spreading of diseases its the day cares, the nursery's where people knowingly allow their bugs to be spread.
Rob and Angel,
Feel free to delete comments like the one above.
Nobody should have to listen to such crap.
We who know you, know you are doing everything in your power to help your son get better, not expose him to various types of bacteria.
Take care, and wishing little Charlie all the best....
Please watch you language, the anonymous above. There is nothing remotely disrespectful in my post.
Just to reiterate... The baby of this age does not need anybody around but his Mom and Dad. All others are there to support the parents, not the baby. So they can do it perfectly well in the waiting room, not hovering over the sick child. That would be the prudent way for them to show that they are taking an extra step to make Charlie feel better sooner.
Respectfully,
Mom-from-CT.
Mom from CT needs to mind her own business!!
Mom from CT:
I am sure the nurses and doctors have the knowledge necessary to ensure Charlie is kept as safe as possible. Furthermore, I am sure the parents would not put their sweet baby in harm's way. It would be nice to see compassion, not passive-agressive behavior during this difficult time.
PS I didn't see MD or RN after your signing of "Mom from CT"
When my little girl Jada Rose was in the hospital we were updating her web site all the time. I wished I had at that time what Rob and Angel have here which is a place for people to leave messages of love and encouragement. It would be such a shame if they had to moderate these wonderful messages. Beleive me when I say if Rob felt like this was worth his time he would have tongue lashed anyone who questioned the manner in which his wife and him have handled this situation to this point. And uhhh he would have used more descriptive words than "Crap". BUT He is busy right now celebrating a victorious day in which the Hospital he is entrusting the life of his child has initiated what appears to be yet another Miracle of many countless other Miracles. Angel has lived up to the meaning of her name in every sense of the word with the way in which she has handled this. My wife and I pray that if we ever need to make life saving decisions regarding our own girl again that God will grant us a portion of the wisdom, strength, and knowledge that we have seen from these two parents. I would place the health and well being of my own child in their hands. That is how confident I am in them. In fact I would LOVE to go give them a High Five and a hug right now but I have what may be a sore throat and dont believe it is smart to go up there. The real issue we should be discussing is what shirt Char was wearing on the day that he decided to enchant us with his KI YI!!! ;)
well said, troy, well said. love ya buddy.
-meghan
Thanks Troy for your words of support for all right now. It's easy for people to "armchair quarterback" photos and circumstances with which they aren't familiar. We have to watch that in the Fire and Emergency Services all the time. Remember, if you are only seeing a picture you have no idea what the details are that pertain to the events. You're all awesome and Rob & Ang, I'm endlessly amazed by your strength and proud to be your sis! Love you!
Hey everyone, lets stop this thread. Rob and Angel and the Medical staff are the only ones that get to make the decision about who and when people get to see little Charlie. We know that they've been prayerfull throughout this process. Not only asking for inspiration on their own behalf, but also on the behalf of all the Dr.s and Nurses who are taking care of Charlie. I really don't think any of us will do anybody any good second guessing Rob and Angel or the medical staff. This is not really the place to discuss such things. Further, there is no reason to use this site as anything other than a chance to offer positive thoughts and messages of hope. Let's all bite our tongues and as gammy always said "let us oft speak kind words to each other". We can do our best by being positive in our thoughts and words. We love you guys very much. P.S. Sarah, Christian and Nicole were very touched watching the video of Charlie crying. They and Angie and I are continually thinking of you and the kids pray every night that Charlie will get better.
Love,
The Lavenders
As a nurse that works in an ICU, let me just say that there can NEVER be enough support. Whether it's the patient that is in a coma, brain dead, intubated, or just too sick to realize who is there; the support from people other than those with medical credentials behind their name tag is incredibly necessary. In fact, the hospital arranges for support for people other than doctors and nurse who don't have family or freinds there to support them. Don't judge a book by its cover...that includes ripping 'mom from CT'. Everyone who KNOWS Rob and Ang, know that if they felt either of their children were in danger, they would have no qualms with letting everyone know.
Hang in there Charlie, Rob, Ang and Britty.....Love you guys.....WUGGS
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